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Post by La Familia Gómez on Sept 1, 2013 22:55:14 GMT -5
I will say that there is a 90% chance that the rp limit will not change. Sorry guys. I'll think about it, but please don't get your hopes up. Thanks for all the ideas so far! Keep them coming!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2013 7:23:30 GMT -5
For the Rp limit I would leave it alone. BUT! for PPV i have seen feds do something like this. Have a 2 rp limit but also have two deadlines. Deadline one is for your first RP. You must get your first RP in by then. And the second deadline is for your second rp if you wanna do one. Now if you miss the first Deadline you can only do 1 RP for the match. So if I do 1 rp before the first deadline but my opponent did not, then i can do a second (If you chose to) But my opponent can only do one because he missed the first deadline. It kinda stops sand badgers this way.. I mean if both do a RP for the first dead line then you can still sandbag for the second. Its kinda a good and bad idea but its a idea none the less lol.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2013 12:09:44 GMT -5
A jobber roster. For fun or match writing practice.
I might also suggest volunteers for match writing to get the results done faster without any delays. It worked for my previous promotion.
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Post by kinkink on Sept 6, 2013 17:49:52 GMT -5
Have a Sandbagging clause. If you post a second on deadline it isn't eligible for judging.
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Post by La Familia Gómez on Sept 6, 2013 18:00:03 GMT -5
I already have sandbagging rules. The rp limit will stay 2 per week. The sandbagging rule has always been there though. You can do 1 or both of your rps up until the last 24 hours of deadline. However, you can NOT post both of your rps within the last 24 hours. So you can do one the first day of the new card then you can do a second on deadline day. But you can't do 2 on deadline day. So ya, that rule has been there for a long time.
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Post by kinkink on Sept 6, 2013 18:44:08 GMT -5
I like it Mr. Scorp.
Another suggestion, doing Card-style RP topics so it's easier to find opponents RPs. Like have a staff member make the topics for people to RP in. It helps clean up the boards a bit too and also makes it easier to find old RPs if you like going back to read like I do.
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Post by bp on Sept 12, 2013 18:50:19 GMT -5
I think that rps should be more like promos for matches. Where the focus is more on the opponents and less on the background or random side characters. I think that reading novels for three hours is a big waste of time. I know people should be allowed to be creative and blah blah but seriously. Remember when CM Punk came out and cut the promo that set the net on fire. Yeah he sat there and got straight to the point. The problem with long rps is that after a while they get stale. I see no point in reading so many words and forgetting what to reply with.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2013 5:20:49 GMT -5
Well that just doesn't make sense what so ever.. Horrible idea.. you are basically taking the creativity out of rping and it will be rather boring.. the thing with stories are they help build the character inside and outside of the ring, if there isn't a story then well you a 1 dimensional and that is never fun.
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Post by EHWF Management on Sept 13, 2013 6:31:51 GMT -5
I think that rps should be more like promos for matches. Where the focus is more on the opponents and less on the background or random side characters. I think that reading novels for three hours is a big waste of time. I know people should be allowed to be creative and blah blah but seriously. Remember when CM Punk came out and cut the promo that set the net on fire. Yeah he sat there and got straight to the point. The problem with long rps is that after a while they get stale. I see no point in reading so many words and forgetting what to reply with. I see where your coming from. Some times niggas can do an RP and the RP could be all character based and not mention their opponents at all. That kinda sucks and those RPs aren't regarded highly but Story and Development in RP's isn't a bad thing. Sure match relevance is a necessity but the RP should be creative and have a story to it as well. Backcground can be a good think and when you have the right balance between background and development and the promo about the match itself then that's not hurting anyone. But yeah, I get where you're coming from. Some stories and backgrounds can be boring but its the quality of the RP itself and attraction to the reader together with the work put in by the writer that makes it a good RP
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Post by bp on Sept 13, 2013 10:19:58 GMT -5
This is an efed therefore matches are booked. We are talking trash about one another. If the match isn't focused on then what is the point of us doing this. I do this because I love pro wrestling. I think that there should be more emphasis on matches and less on what goes on in the background. There was a match I had in another fed where a girl who was my opponent "role played" and she had a birthday party for her character. There was no focus on anything having to do with the match. I can see if let's say your character goes to the doctors office for an injury from a previous match. Then I can see where you are coming from or if through out your story you are talking about your match then fine. As far as character development goes isn't that what the storyline boards are for? I mean seriously why is it such an issue. If you are a talented enough writer it won't be dull and boring.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2013 13:36:15 GMT -5
If you are creative enough as a writer you can make a storyline include match relevance. I do it all the time as well as others. Its not that hard mate. Putting restrictions of what you can and can not write isn't a good idea.
Now by all means you go ahead and do your little promos all you want and have no story. Thats the right YOU have being here in this fed. But don't try and limit the writing of others.
Thats my 2 cents... you do it your way.. I will do it my way and we can just agree to disagree on this one.
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Post by lynchmob on Sept 13, 2013 17:27:35 GMT -5
I never understood the "I don't want to read a novel" argument. The only way to get better is by repetition and if you are able to write more with substance, it's a good thing. I wouldn't want to be confined with a CAW and I could only do like 2K for an RP. It would make more unique gimmicks become worthless. At the end of the day, everyone is a character and you need to develop them so in each RP, you aren't saying
"Hey, you suck, I'm going to beat you this week and I will be the strongest bad guy to have ever of lived. Your title will be mine."
Your character needs a personality or he'll just be another generic face/heel. Every CAW I see in efeds that are just strictly promo based are nearly all the same. The heels are the same stereotypes. No one wants to play the cowardly heel, the heel who is over the top, or the heel with nothing to lose. They play the cocky, arrogant heel who thinks he is better than everyone else. Babyface is different because it's hard to be original with that. You're either the underdog, the good guy, comedic character, or the guy who is the face of the company.
When you watch a movie, you want character development. You don't want to watch the main character for 2 hours just fight bad guys, but I guess that is subjective. You want to learn about the character and who they are. What's the point of watching a movie where the guy is trying to get revenge if we don't know why he wants revenge or what events led up to it? You don't want a thriller based on a psychological serial killer without knowing why he's who he is or what his backstory was. Very few characters can do that with The Joker being one of them, but his backstory is open because people think about him. I'm not going to watch Expendables 2 and think "Why is Jean-Claude Van Damme a villain?" because he wasn't interesting. RPs are a form of art and a story to me. Just like a promo. A promo doesn't have to be getting down to the opponent because that's boring. How can you say "Oh, well, guy #1 said 'You suck" better than guy #2"? You have to see their personality and their motive.
I'm a big offender of this argument I suppose. My character development isn't straight forward, but wrestling is a soap opera. It goes on and you learn about it. I think of each chapter of my character development to be a segment on television, just weekly episodes. I mean, yeah, characters get married or get divorces outside of the realm of wrestling, but it's still an episode of their life. I'll use Tyler Chance's last RP as an example. He's completely new to EHWF and a new character. You don't know him and I don't know him. Brand new character. It's easy to see in the promo he's evil and dark, but why? What makes him, him? In his prologue, he tells why his character wears a mask. Why does he act like one way and speak the other? He discusses that. I don't want to read a promo where they get straight to the point, that's boring to me.
If CM Punk just said "Hey Paul Heyman, I don't like you. You're fat and I hate you. Wrestle me." It wouldn't be fun. They discuss the history the two have had and the events leading up to the feud. If Black Man showed up on an episode of Mayhem with a massive scar across his face and no explanation, wouldn't you be curious as to why that's there?
On the other side of the argument, someone could write an RP that is 6K and it could be complete garbage. That can happen with a promo that's 10K or 1K. People judge quality over quantity for a reason. People improve over time and it's just trying over and over again until you can better yourself. So just ignore the character development if that's your thing. Just read the promo. Many people are kind enough to split up the char. dev. from the promo. Though, in some RPs, character development is wrestling related and mentioned in their promos. It takes a good writer to keep someone interested and not everyone writes a perfect story their first time. You learn from others. Why write if you can't be yourself and be creative?
Lynch wouldn't exist if it wasn't for character development. He'd be just another generic religious freak who would be bland and boring. I'm not saying he's the greatest character in all of e-fedding, but I don't think he'd be interesting without a backstory or in his case, a lack of. That's why whenever I write for him, I try to include a different message in the beginning of each promo. It's so, so, so, so easy to write a promo in the simplest of terms. It can be a struggle for some and in the same regards, I can understand that. You want to distinguish yourself from the crowd. When people read my RPs, I want them to be entertained. If they prefer character dev., I got it. If they prefer promos, I got it. If they want both, I got it. My sections are equal in length and I try to do that for a reason.
Just because it's an efed doesn't mean writing isn't important. There's a difference between:
"Michael Lynch is a loser who couldn't beat an old lady if she was already dead. He's not a champion and he never will be. This week on Mayhem, you're going down, scrub."
To
"Michael Lynch is the problem with society, he leads a crowd of sheep with a mask to hide the corruption he represents. He is a coward who stands behind an army of those willing to die for no purpose. I have fought in numerous wars and I've come out on top each and every time. This religious waste that he spouts is nothing, but a fallacy that people mistakenly believe for the truth."
Sure, if a guy's character dev is boring, it's boring, nothing will change that, but the point is that he tried. Give him feedback, tell him why it was boring. Don't just open something and see character development then think "Well, this is meaningless" because you're only hurting yourself. It's like when you graduate from college and think "Well, I've finished all the education that I need, time to stop learning." I learn new words and meanings from people who write. A lot of that comes from character development. You're playing a game where reading and writing is the main aspect. What did you expect? People in the WWE don't need to do character development because you already know who they are. People who are brand new in a CAW fed don't need it, but it helps them.
So I can see where you stand and this is where I stand. I can't change your opinion and my argument was probably horrible. Maybe someone will be able to figure out my point in all of this. This is just strictly my opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2013 18:16:57 GMT -5
Lol damn some of these opinions are longer than some of this weeks rps
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2013 16:24:46 GMT -5
Three words. More. Wilmer. Patacky. In all seriousness, I'd say doing predictions for cards and such. I noticed it used to be done, but it's been a while. I might actually try and start one up for this week.
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Post by ddubs on Sept 22, 2013 23:04:02 GMT -5
Don't know if this is a good idea or not, but it's all I can think of.
Maybe add a Vignette section to the Character Development forum? I think cinematic pieces would be good to promote characters. I don't know. lol.
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Post by La Familia Gómez on Sept 23, 2013 1:27:45 GMT -5
I suppose i just considered those for the "In The Arena" forum under the Character Development section. Like i figured they'd take place in the arena or whatever. Making another CD board is an idea i'm open to, but only if we need it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2014 2:25:08 GMT -5
Just curious how many teams would we need to receive tag titles?
We always throw enemies together and force them to tag together as well..
Kind of like HBK and Austin did in the 90's..
I'm sure we could pair a ton of people together..
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Post by GoTagTeams on Feb 8, 2014 4:49:19 GMT -5
not a bad idea
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2014 8:26:28 GMT -5
Tag Tites could certainly be in the near future. The fed is doing well and a ton of people are rping. Make it happen Scorpion..
Plus you can even pair enemies together..
Would be interesting.
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Post by Silly Billy Rider on Feb 12, 2014 19:16:05 GMT -5
Why do you want tag titles bill? Go for the gold. Get that number one spot. You dont need a partner weighing you down.
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