2 deadlines?

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So I think its safe to say that lately around here the roster has been pretty thin with l.o.a's and no shows. And we all can agree it gets harder and harder to rply against the same couple people constantly. How many more ways can I express my dislike of Astrid or Kevin Hunter with out sounding like a broken record?

With the ideas of coming back together as one show or even a superstar shake up quickly shot down. The next logical step for me has been recruitment. What this place needs is fresh faces! And not just ones that are here for a show and then poof are gone again. So myself as well as a few others have been actively trying to recruit new talent. With not much luck.

And it doesn't make sense. The talent we do have, albeit thin is actually pretty great. And the results are some of the best I've seen in feds. Who wouldn't want to come here, right? Well after asking a bit about from the people turning it down. Other then just not having time for a second fed the big turn off is EHWFs lack of activity. We do bi weekly shows which isnt bad but it is the idea that we have 2 weeks to role play and the boards practically a ghost town until the final few days leading into the deadline.

So I had an idea... Hear me out. Most of us, specially for ppvs or big matches post 2 roleplays per match. Which is great. But we always post them with in days of the deadline. What if we all made a conscious effort to spread the love so to speak. We have 2 weeks we post 2 rplys. Why not post 1 per week? It would make this fed feel more lively and not like a slowly dying company. And could also help attract more contracts if people saw we were actually active!

If we tried harder to do this i think it would also help all of our writing. How often do you want to rebuttle and do a promo based off what your opponet has said about you in their rply but they post it so close to deadline there is no time to do so? This way of doing 1 rply per week allows more interaction?

Idk maybe these are rants of an old mad man. But I've been around this block long enough to smell blood in the water. And I like this place enough to not wanna see it all fall down.

So maybe you think its a good idea maybe you don't. But all I ask is we try it. Were all guilty of late posting. Myself included so this new card deadline isn't til July 16th which is a little more than 2 weeks. I'm making an effort to have my first rply up by the 9th. It'd be awesome to see others try the same.


(And maybe some more games and discussions other than what are you listening to... Cause really no one cares that Bill only listens to Breaking Benjamin lol)

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Good options mate, but I can tell you that I have said this place was 'dying' or heading in that direction before, when it was actually worse then it is right now, and I was met with rolling eyes and people told me the place was fine. So basically I don't think that you will get much reaction to that argument.

As for the 2 deadlines, I do like that idea. I come on to read rps and you are right, I don't have anything to read for the first 12 days of a 14 day deadline and then boom I have all rps to read within the last 2 days so it would be nice to see some spreading out of the rps. How that can be made into a thing other then a "show this place some love" is beyond me, but maybe Rissi and Tate have an idea.

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I, personally, have always tried to spread out my 2 RPs kind of as a courtesy. That and I'm more likely to get two decent ones up if I spread them out. The two times that I have sandbagged I apologized for it. I do think it would be better if people spread their RPs out to allow rebuttal, but I don't think making two deadlines would work because I think you would have people just doing it reluctantly. I think it'll just have to be an active personal choice for everyone involved.

As for discussion and such, I've always felt that if people want to talk, they'll talk. There have been some decent conversations about wrestling events, sporting events, and other things every once in a while since I've been here. Maybe we could make an effort to make those happen more frequently. If not, I mean some people are just here for the efedding not the efedding community, which isn't necessarily a problem either. In that case, just spreading out RPs will solve that inactive feeling and work just the same I feel.

Other suggestions include allowing members to vote on show awards like favorite match, favorite commentary line, biggest surprise, best RP instead of management doing it. I have seen, however, that prediction threads in the past here haven't gotten much attention so it's likely that these would be treated the same.

I don't know, that's just my two cents. I'll keep trying my best to spread out my RPs and contribute to discussions that I feel I have a worthy contribution to.

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Yeah. Just to be clear I wasnt meaning for there to actually be 2 different deadlines... In fact I dont even know why I labeled it as my header. My main point was it would be nice for there to be more activity on down time as apposed to the mad rush at deadline. That could help an influx of more competition/challengers as a whole.

And I do like the idea of a weekly voting thing. It could even be outside of the management one if they'd like. Im always curious as to what other people are liking as far as rplys results etc go.

And I get that not everyone is trying to have a conversation and be active all the time. And I think thats one reason lots of people do like this fed because shows are so staggered out so it isn't too overwhelming.

Idk I'm just thinking out loud at this point. And maybe I'm the only one who thinks the rosters too thin and should get over it haha

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The whole two deadline thing is a great idea as 4CW have this system in place and it works well for them to have deadline one week and again another week with two RP's being optional.

I won't ever do two RP's as I feel personally, you don't need two RP's to win matches and it's good if people want and like to do back and forth with their opponents, but I prefer to tell a story and do a shoot portion in one RP.

Also that I don't have time to do two, especially of me making the decision to have Samuel, Raab and Kieran having single matches now and don't want to waste ideas for material in the future.

We even have discord for this fed that barely anybody uses for some reason and I like to see that being more active too as well as the boards.

A lot of feds have inactive OOC boards sadly cos of twitter nowadays that we communicate on. It's the way the game is now dude.

[EHWF Management]

If there is one thing I hate it's a mass flood of RPs a day, a couple hours or a couple minutes before the deadline. I agree it doesn't look that great but worse than that it makes it difficult for judging and match writing and as a result delays the shows. We have the new sandbagging/deadline whoring rule that we discussed at the beginning of the year and while it did deter late posting a little, a lot of people still post on the last day or sandbag to the 24hr deadline that is in place. I'll be making a separate thread to discuss deadline options with all active members of the EHWF Roster soon but overall I think everyone should endeavour to try and get one RP up early - this was part of the reason we switched to bi-weekly shows.

Regarding activity, I believe EHWF is far from dying... I don't really know where that came from... Everyone still shows each week for their matches and we have a decent amount of members but I agree there isn't much talk. I agree with Fizz, Twitter's unfortunate arrival in efedding has damaged things like Character Development, Tags and the OOC Element not only in EHWF but in many feds. If people put as much effort into, say doing a Character Development piece or a joint Character Development RP as they did into their Tweets then imagine how much more creativity we'd all have and how many other avenues the Fed and your Characters would have.

I understand people don't have time but we moved to bi-weekly to accommodate that. I understand people don't have time but (and I don't mean efedders in EHWF generally) but some efedders nowadays a leading complete other lives on Twitter and focus so much time into a fictional character that you'd have to wonder if they're spending more time on their pretend life than their real life? That's just my two cents on Twitter anyway, I'm not knocking anyone here but I can see many other people in many other efeds clearly dedicate stupid amounts of time and effort into their Twitter accounts.

Moving onto the Rosters issue. With many different facets and elements that run EHWF now it's always hard to get ideas across and get them to go forward. Initially I was open to the idea of shaking the rosters up and doing another draft but after talking to other parties we weren't able to get it through. After the rosters continued and developed I think we grew happy with the way they were and that's not a good thing. We've become complacent as staff and as a result, certain things can't be offered to certain people if they were on certain shows. This is an issue and we hear that the roster situation needs a spice up so I can guarantee we will revisit that topic ASAP.

Overall, I feel like EHWF is still in a positive and great place. I remember times when it was really dwindling and I remember times where there was drama everywhere. Thankfully pretty much all drama has been stomped out and we'll never go back to those old times, regardless of what needs to be done. There is a positive vibe overall in EHWF, people work together, there is minimal complaints and everyone has a good time.

Thank you for your input and feedback. You guys can expect another thread where I'll outline these topics and what we plan to implement as solutions after I have a quick discussion with the other staff members.

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Even if you pushed the first deadline 4-5 days back instead of having it 24 hours before the final deadline would be ideal. This should create more competition with people having to get something up before the first deadline which if they happen to do so, gives their opponent some ammunition to go off of, plus the judges can get a bit of a headstart when it comes to grading RP's.