New RPing Rules

[EHWF Management]

Hi All,

Thanks to all who RP'd for Scars and Stripes and made it a great show. Everything we read, we loved and we hope ya'll enjoyed the show.

Dating back a few weeks or maybe a month or two before Scars and Stripes  - a few concerns were voiced by a few different members of EHWF. All of these concerned had to do with last minute RPing, Deadline Whoring and Sandbagging. (While it is understandable everyone including those who complained are guilty of this)

While it is technically not against the rules to do so, it's becoming commonplace to do so and it's pissing people (once again they're guilty too) off.

As a result and because it has been requested by many others and because it is becoming and issue, we're going to implement a rule that tries to combat the problems of Deadline Whoring and Sandbagging that benefits everyone.

When we switched to bi-weekly this was an issue as well and people said they had minimal time to get and RP up but everyone still got an RP up. One of the reasons we made it Bi-Weekly was so people had more time and we could get better Shows/RPs up. Unfortunately people are still bringing it right down to the wire even with 2 weeks to RP - sometimes more.


The Issues With Whoring/Sandbagging:

	Your Opponent	Staff Members
Sandbagging	Pisses your Opponent Off	Effects Judging and Timely Results
Whoring	Pisses your Opponent Off	Effects Judging and Timely Results

The New Rules:

After talking it over we came up with a set of new rules that should help combat this problem. We feel that 2 weeks is plenty of time to get and RP up and also plenty of time if you want to take advantage of the 2 RP limit. When we judge RPs there is no points system but mentally there are a set of criteria which we add up and technically become points towards a RP (Detail, Relevance, Development, Repetitiveness etc) The best RP wins

Starting now, judges will be docking points for RPs that are Sandbagged and Whored/Last Minuted. If and RP is Sandbagged right before (an hour or a few) the 24hr mark then another is posted after that, the RP's will both lose 2 technical points towards it.

For RPs that are Whored in posted right up until the last moments or hours of the deadline then 1 technical point will be lost for that RP. Imagine RP's are graded out of 10 - you lose the points.

SandBagging	Whoring
Lose 2 Technical Points For Each RP	Lose 1 Technical Point From The RP

Details:

There should be no reason to SandBag your opponent right up to the deadlines, it's a dog act and points will be taken off because of it.

However, there are times in which you're going to Deadline Whore. You'll be given the opportunity to deadline Whore with NO penalties applied to you IF you aren't a usual suspect. If you Whore your opponent 2 weeks in a row then you will be penalised the 2nd week. If you RP timely 1 week then Whore the next week, you won't be penalised. You'll only be penalised if you Whore 2 weeks in a row or more. If Whoring is continuous then you'll start to lose more than just 1 point on your RP.

You're probs thinking... (It'll have no effect if we all still just Whore it out!) Wrong - If both opponents Deadline Whore and are going to be penalised, the RP posted last will lose more points than the one posted first. This should give everyone an incentive not to Deadline Whore if they already did it the week earlier.  

Hopefully this is met with a positive reaction by everyone as we're trying to help everyone, keep things interesting, keep the fed looking good and keep things competitive and not boring.

When figuring this all out we floated the idea of ALSO rewarding early RPers but we're choosing not to implement that yet and we will be sticking with the SandBagging and Whoring rules from this moment on.


We're hoping this has a positive impact. If anyone has any questions or concerns, feel free to PM me!

Thanks!

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I don't think anyone will disagree with this system. Since I started working third shift I haven't been able to find motivation to write after my shifts, which usually leads me to write on my nights off, which are Saturday and Sunday. This new system will hopefully motivate me to push myself a little bit more during the week, so I could have chance at getting up two RP's instead of one.

I immediately thought of the UFC point system the second I read this post. If a fighter keeps breaking the rules during a fight, the referee will take a point away from that fighter, which could easily change the outcome of a fight. Losing a point could be the difference between winning a major championship and walking away with a loss. This will definitely make all the matches more competitive, which is always a plus.

Cool stuff guys and gals! Can't wait to see how things play out with the new system in place.

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so like how many hours do you considering deadline whoring... 2 or less? because like bill I usually have not motivation to write after a shift and I don't get done til 11 pm eastern...sometimes later. And then again, I could end up working third or even first (like today).

I also rely on using my personal hotspot via my phone data and then again, that only works as long as I have two bars of LTE. 

I'm just asking for some clarification.

[EHWF Management]

After the 24hr mark. That's where the phrase "why does this guy have to wait until the last day to post" come from. If you Whore 2 weeks in a row then you will be penalised.

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If this helps, I plan to start mine tomorrow and post it earlier in the week mainly because I got three RP's to do next week and one of them is here. I will never personally do two RP's again because I experienced that a few years ago and I always ran out of ideas which had me having to read my opponent's 1st RP if they did one just to get ideas and counter back everything they said and I dislike doing that along with lack of quality with the 2nd RP compared to the 1st RP and plus I rather get everything done in one RP.

I think an hour or two hours before deadline should be penalised in my opinion because you realise people are busy during the week with work or college and maybe the deadline day is the only day they can do an RP.

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Sept 24, 2017 15:06:18 GMT -5 @livr said:

so like how many hours do you considering deadline whoring... 2 or less? because like bill I usually have not motivation to write after a shift and I don't get done til 11 pm eastern...sometimes later. And then again, I could end up working third or even first (like today).

I also rely on using my personal hotspot via my phone data and then again, that only works as long as I have two bars of LTE. 

I'm just asking for some clarification.

I feel you on the on that third shift life, but having two weeks to write is more than enough time for me to get something decent up well before the first deadline. My goal is to have my first up by the end of the Friday prior to the first deadline. Worst case scenario, I want to have it up Saturday morning, giving my opponent a good 12-15 hours to read my material. These new rules will push me to write more frequently if I want to stay competitive here. Like I mentioned earlier, it's going to be a lot of fun to see how this all plays out down the road, because this is something that should make the fed more active, and competitive.

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Sept 24, 2017 17:21:35 GMT -5 Lord Raab said:

If this helps, I plan to start mine tomorrow and post it earlier in the week mainly because I got three RP's to do next week and one of them is here. I will never personally do two RP's again because I experienced that a few years ago and I always ran out of ideas which had me having to read my opponent's 1st RP if they did one just to get ideas and counter back everything they said and I dislike doing that along with lack of quality with the 2nd RP compared to the 1st RP and plus I rather get everything done in one RP.

I think an hour or two hours before deadline should be penalised in my opinion because you realise people are busy during the week with work or college and maybe the deadline day is the only day they can do an RP.

You made some valid points here Fizz. There were a few times when I posted early and then my opponent posted a few hours later, and literally gutted my RP and turned it against me. I hate it, but there's nothing you can really do about it. I also thought about the fact that I am going to have to come up with fresh ideas more frequently, especially in big matches that involve championships. Thankfully, when it comes to shooting on someone I would like to think I hold a small advantage over a lot of the newer faces here, especially when I face someone that's been here for quite some time. Most of the time I just write up how my character feels about the person, but the key to a shoot is to make the reader believe what he/she is reading. The stronger you make your character feel towards the people judging your matches, the more they will get behind your character. Keeping your CD fresh and interesting is the real pain in the butt, but the more you win and accomplish here, the easier it will be making them look strong in their matches. If I'm facing someone who accomplished more than my character, then you need to get creative and make the reader believe that your character deserves this win.

Perfect example. DGS vs Silver Kazama III. (I believe it was their third match, but correct me if I'm wrong.) DGS was the EHWF World Heavyweight Champion and 2-0 against Silver Kazama. I remember reading Silver's RP and by the end of it, Matt had me sold that Silver Kazama, despite the odds that are stacked against him, should win the EHWF Championship from David.

Just keep pushing and grinding and putting up the work. Everything else will follow in due time.

[EHWF Management]

Sept 24, 2017 17:21:35 GMT -5 Lord Raab said:

I think an hour or two hours before deadline should be penalised in my opinion because you realise people are busy during the week with work or college and maybe the deadline day is the only day they can do an RP.

Yes, very valid point. We addressed this at the beginning of the year by giving everyone a whole extra week to RP when we switched to bi-weekly deadlines.